Discussion:
Inclusion of Stillbirths & Adopted Infants in NYC Birth Index?
(too old to reply)
Deborah Dworski
2017-12-17 04:05:09 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
X-No-archive: yes
Online access to the 1957 NYC birth index has yielded the discovery of a surprise
baby who clearly belongs on my family tree due to the unusual surname. She is only
listed as "baby girl." Pondering possible explanations of this finding has led to
more general questions about the database. First, did the NYC birth index include
stillbirths or were stillbirths assigned to the City death index? Were adopted
infants expunged from the birth index? If adopted infants were included, were they
listed according to the biological mother's surname, the biological father's
surname (if known) or the surname of the adopting family?

Please respond privately. Thank you.

Deborah Dworski
Arlington, VA USA

MODERATOR: Although Deborah requested private responses, this information is likely
to be of general interest - please submit your responses to the Discussion Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Watch JewishGen's video -- click here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nASSn4rDXh4
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Planning to use Ancestry.com? Start by using the "Ancestry Search Box"
on the JewishGen homepage.
By doing this, any eventual subscription to Ancestry.com will result in
Jewishgen receiving a commission.
It's an easy way to help JewishGen!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Support JewishGen with a contribution to the JewishGen General Fund!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sign up for the JGFFAlert!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgff-faq.html#q3.7
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Join our mailing list at http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager if you
would like the convenience of receiving all soc.genealogy.jewish posts in
your mailbox, instead of having to search for them in the newsgroup, whose
content may not be consistently carried in its entirety by all providers.
Banai Lynn Feldstein
2017-12-18 01:01:55 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
X-No-archive: yes
Adoptions are listed in the NYC Birth Index under the birth name. The
records were sealed and new birth certificates issued under the same
certificate number.

I also pondered if they were listed under the mother or the father. I
have an example listed under the father's surname. But I can imagine
the mother not revealing the father's identity and finding the child
listed under the mother's surname as well.

As for stillbirths, I believe they are included in the birth indexes.
At least for a certain range of years, they are listed separately
from the other births, but they are included on the microfilms at the
FHL. But that is just the indexes; none of the stillbirth
certificates were microfilmed. And 1957 would be much too recent for
those films anyway. You'd have to try in NYC.

Banai

>From: Deborah Dworski <***@gmail.com>
>Online access to the 1957 NYC birth index has yielded the discovery of a surprise
>baby who clearly belongs on my family tree due to the unusual surname. She is
>only listed as "baby girl." Pondering possible explanations of this finding has
>led to more general questions about the database. First, did the NYC birth
>index include stillbirths or were stillbirths assigned to the City death index?

Banai Lynn Feldstein
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Watch JewishGen's video -- click here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nASSn4rDXh4
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Planning to use Ancestry.com? Start by using the "Ancestry Search Box"
on the JewishGen homepage.
By doing this, any eventual subscription to Ancestry.com will result in
Jewishgen receiving a commission.
It's an easy way to help JewishGen!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Support JewishGen with a contribution to the JewishGen General Fund!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sign up for the JGFFAlert!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgff-faq.html#q3.7
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Join our mailing list at http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager if you
would like the convenience of receiving all soc.genealogy.jewish posts in
your mailbox, instead of having to search for them in the newsgroup, whose
content may not be consistently carried in its entirety by all providers.
Edward David Luft
2017-12-20 20:47:26 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
X-No-archive: yes
Hello Ms. Dworski,

In answer to your queries, please see the following:

For New York City stillbirths and miscarriages, see
http://www1.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/service/2523/stillbirth-and-miscarriage-certificate
[MOD. NOTE: shortened URL - https://goo.gl/NuA3ra ]

For New York City adoptions, see
https://www.health.ny.gov/vital_records/adoption.htm

If you find a certificate online and have not yet ordered it, check for what
additional information, if any, appears on
https://www.familysearch.org/hr/search/ because that website may provide the
names of the parents, as listed on the certificate.

Thank you for providing your location, as requested in the instructions to
posting on this website. It often helps to know that information for the
purpose of directing those posting queries to the physical location of resources.

I do not do research for others, and my time is limited. I cannot spend more
time on this issue.

I wish you success in your continuing research.

Sincerely,
Edward David Luft
Washington, DC

From: Deborah Dworski <***@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017
> Online access to the 1957 NYC birth index has yielded the discovery of a
> surprise baby who clearly belongs on my family tree due to the unusual
> surname. She is only listed as "baby girl." Pondering possible explanations
> of this finding has led to more general questions about the database. First,
> did the NYC birth index include stillbirths or were stillbirths assigned to
> the City death index? Were adopted infants expunged from the birth index?
> If adopted infants were included, were they listed according to the biological
> mother's surname, the biological father's surname (if known) or the surname
> of the adopting family?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Watch JewishGen's video -- click here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nASSn4rDXh4
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Planning to use Ancestry.com? Start by using the "Ancestry Search Box"
on the JewishGen homepage.
By doing this, any eventual subscription to Ancestry.com will result in
Jewishgen receiving a commission.
It's an easy way to help JewishGen!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Support JewishGen with a contribution to the JewishGen General Fund!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sign up for the JGFFAlert!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgff-faq.html#q3.7
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Join our mailing list at http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager if you
would like the convenience of receiving all soc.genealogy.jewish posts in
your mailbox, instead of having to search for them in the newsgroup, whose
content may not be consistently carried in its entirety by all providers.
Loading...