Discussion:
(Belgium and Netherlands) Open Archives-Records on 174 Million People in Dutch and Belgian Archives
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Jan Meisels Allen
2017-12-23 17:13:52 UTC
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The Open Archives Provides records and additional information for 174
million people in the Dutch and Belgian archives. The website is:
https://www.openarch.nl/. Searches are predominately free but for some
features such as showing ancestors in a pedigree, automatic children search
or downloading the results as PDF, GEDCOM, XLS, or CSV a subscription is
required. Information is provided in the following languages: Nederland,
English, French and German. The display from search results gives
information such as name-given and surname; "role" such as civil servant,
owner, year, place and the source-such as population register and which
archives the information is available,

I tried the name A. Cohen in the search bar and 204 results came back with
A. Cohen. The sources varied from military, population registers, notarial
records, royal resolutions, death, census records, civil registration
marriages and more. Some of the records are transcriptions only, those
where the original record is available an icon of a scanned page is next to
the listing.

Open archives also has a newsletter which free and access to the newsletter
archive. The newsletter keeps you informed as to newly added resources: The
current newsletter which explains the automatic pedigree is available at:
https://www.openarch.nl/hmodh/?date=20171221. Previous newsletters gives
information on other resources in their database. You can access the
archives at: https://www.openarch.nl/hmodh/

Than you to Dick Eastman and the Eastman Online Genealogical Newsletter for
informing us about Open Archives.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Jan Bousse
2017-12-24 14:18:10 UTC
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Post by Jan Meisels Allen
The Open Archives Provides records and additional information for 174
https://www.openarch.nl/. Searches are predominately free but for some
features such as showing ancestors in a pedigree, automatic children search
or downloading the results as PDF, GEDCOM, XLS, or CSV a subscription is
required. Information is provided in the following languages: Nederland,
English, French and German. The display from search results gives
information such as name-given and surname; "role" such as civil servant,
owner, year, place and the source-such as population register and which
archives the information is available...
Dear Friends,

This website looks very promising. It refers to records in Dutch and Belgian
archives. The url is nl, meaning the source is The Netherlands. I tried it
out with various names. I saw that it did not confine itself to Jewish
names. I tried two Jewish names and some Belgian ones. From the results I conclude:

The site deals mainly with Dutch records. Very occasionally there is an
event in Belgium, but it seems always to be one connected to a record in
Nederland. For instance, someone born in Vlissingen, Zeeland, death recorded
in Oostende, Belgium. The source is probably a Dutch record.

I tried a few names from my own family. Some of the names appear in Dutch
records but they are not related to my family. Like my mother's name Van Parys, not
one record from Belgium. My own name Bousse, rare in Holland but for which I have
records in Belgium from the late 1500s, no results in that website.

The website is useful but with these limitations.

I wish you all a happy and healthy year 2018.

Jan Bousse,
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j***@lyris.jewishgen.org
2017-12-24 22:26:24 UTC
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Post by Jan Bousse
This website looks very promising. It refers to records in Dutch and
Belgian archives. The url is nl, meaning the source is The Netherlands.
I tried it out with various names. I saw that it did not confine itself
to Jewish names. I tried two Jewish names and some Belgian ones. From
The site deals mainly with Dutch records. Very occasionally there is an
event in Belgium, but it seems always to be one connected to a record in
Nederland. For instance, someone born in Vlissingen, Zeeland, death
recorded in Oostende, Belgium. The source is probably a Dutch record.
Despite the stated "Dutch and Belgian archives" notice on that site,
<https://www.openarch.nl/overview-archives.php?lang=en> shows that most connected
archives are in the Netherlands, and only two
[Rijksarchief Belgie (Antwerpen-Beveren) & State Archives Belgium (Hasselt)]
are in Belgium.

See:
<https://www.openarch.nl/overview-archives.php?lang=en>

The source of a record is almost always noted, and an Antwerpen Belgium
death of a person living in Vlissingen, Netherlands should always result in
an [additional to an Antwerpen one] entry in the Vlissingen municipal records.

Dutch civil[!] records ofcourse are not limited to Jewish entries.

Another Netherlands congregation website [congregation in the sense that it
shows many regional civil records is <https://www.wiewaswie.nl/en/>
['WieWasWie' = 'WhoWasWho']

Since 'wiewaswie' only shows, in the case of Amsterdam, only marriages,
the Amsterdam archive could [and should] casu quo be accessed seperately:
<https://archief.amsterdam/indexen/> [recently also free access]

Nearly all Jewish WWII deaths, concentrationcamp murders to other causes,
can be found here: <https://www.joodsmonument.nl/en/>

Many Dutch Jewish trees can be found here <http://dutchjewry.org/>,
I use Google to search for 'dutchjewry' trees using a search-line like this:

site:dutchjewry.org "A Cohen"

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
exjxwxhannivoortATinterxnlxnet
(Please change the x'es to dots)
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j***@lyris.jewishgen.org
2017-12-24 22:26:50 UTC
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X-No-archive: yes
Post by Jan Meisels Allen
X-No-archive: yes
Post by Jan Meisels Allen
The Open Archives Provides records and additional information for 174
https://www.openarch.nl/. Searches are predominately free but for some
features such as showing ancestors in a pedigree, automatic children
search or downloading the results as PDF, GEDCOM, XLS, or CSV a
subscription is required. Information is provided in the following
languages: Nederland, English, French and German. The display from
search results gives information such as name-given and surname;
"role" such as civil servant, owner, year, place and the source-such as
population register and which archives the information is available...
Dear Friends,
This website looks very promising. It refers to records in Dutch and
Belgian archives. The url is nl, meaning the source is The Netherlands.
I tried it out with various names. I saw that it did not confine itself
to Jewish names. I tried two Jewish names and some Belgian ones. From
The site deals mainly with Dutch records. Very occasionally there is an
event in Belgium, but it seems always to be one connected to a record in
Nederland. For instance, someone born in Vlissingen, Zeeland, death
recorded in Oostende, Belgium. The source is probably a Dutch record.
I tried a few names from my own family. Some of the names appear in
Dutch records but they are not related to my family. Like my mother's
name Van Parys, not one record from Belgium. My own name Bousse, rare in
Holland but for which I have records in Belgium from the late 1500s, no
results in that website.
The website is useful but with these limitations.
Despite the stated "Dutch and Belgian archives" notice on that site,
<https://www.openarch.nl/overview-archives.php?lang=en>
shows that most connected archives are in the Netherlands, and only two
[Rijksarchief België (Antwerpen-Beveren) & State Archives Belgium (Hasselt)]
are in Belgium.

See:
<https://www.openarch.nl/overview-archives.php?lang=en>

The source of a record is almost always noted, and an Antwerpen Belgium
death of a person living in Vlissingen, Netherlands should always result in
an [additional to an Antwerpen one] entry in the Vlissingen municipal
records.

Dutch civil[!] records ofcourse are not limited to Jewish entries.

=================

Another Netherlands congregation website [congregation in the sense that it
shows many regional civil records is <https://www.wiewaswie.nl/en/>
['WieWasWie' = 'WhoWasWho']

=================

Since 'wiewaswie' only shows, in the case of Amsterdam, only marriages,
the Amsterdam archive could [and should] casu quo be accessed seperately:
<https://archief.amsterdam/indexen/> [recently also free access]

=================

Nearly all Jewish WWII deaths, concentrationcamp murders to other causes,
can be found here: <https://www.joodsmonument.nl/en/>

=================

Many Dutch Jewish trees can be found here <http://dutchjewry.org/>,
I use Google to search for 'dutchjewry' trees using a search-line like this:

site:dutchjewry.org "A Cohen"

=================
--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
exjxwxhannivoortATinterxnlxnet
(Please change the x'es to dots)
Visit the most beautiful shul of western Europe:
<http://synagogeenschede.nl/>


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