1895 Ellis Island record - missing?

[Alan Shuchat]

X-No-archive: yes
According to Russians to America, a family named Swik arrived at Ellis
Island from Glasgow on the Furnessia, Sept. 16, 1895. According to the
Ellis Island database, the family was named Switz. I think a mother
and 4 children were traveling, but only the children's names appear
and the surname and first names are mangled. The microfilm records
seem to be missing. The passenger ID, frame, and line numbers are
given, but there is no image of the manifest. On FamilySearch, the
microfilm (M237 Roll 648) has the ship and the date, but not the family
or, for that matter, any passengers who came from Russia. Are there
other ways to get the manifest to try to reconstruct the family record?
Thanks for any suggestions.

Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka),
Tavrig, Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)
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[Allan Jordan]

X-No-archive: yes
The Russians to America books were built by reading the passenger
lists so the passenger list has to exist. In the 1940s (I think I
have the right decade) the National Archives microfilmed all the
passenger lists. That is the one and only set of microfilm records
of the passenger lists.

All of the databases work from the master negatives which are
controlled by the National Archives. It is very possible that some
of the databases misloaded their versions into their databases. The
indexes you are finding online were also built from the microfilm
including Ellis Island so if they are in the database that means they
were found on the passenger list, but of course the index can or will
be misspellings, bad interpretations, etc.

You need to check all of the various versions online between Family
Search, Ellis Island, Ancestry, etc. Some of them you may have to go
to the library because for example Ancestry is free in libraries or by
subscription at home. Don't trust the indexing especially on Ancestry
you can retrieve the individual ship's pages and read them one by one.

If all else fails you are going to have to get to the microfilm which
is harder than it sounds. NARA NYC for example has gone to the
databases and no longer has the film available. NARA downtown
Washington DC still has the microfilm. I assume the LDS at least in
Utah has the film and various other institutions. The NYC Public
Library had the film but I am not sure what its status is now.

I would spend time working on the online versions because I think if
you can get to the pages it is as complete as the microfilm but as
for missing names, etc. you need to see the page to know why it shows
that way in the index. There could be blanks, rips, missing sections,
etc. on the original pages. When you look at the images you will see
the original paper copies were not in the best of condition which is
why they were microfilmed in the first place.

Good luck with the search.

Allan Jordan

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Shuchat ***@gmail.com

According to Russians to America, a family named Swik arrived at Ellis
Island from Glasgow on the Furnessia, Sept. 16, 1895. ...The microfilm records
seem to be missing.
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[j***@lyris.jewishgen.org]

X-No-archive: yes

Are there other ways to get the manifest to try to reconstruct the

family record?

You can browse through the digital images for the roll, without relying
on an index. On FamilySearch, go to
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1368704 , then scroll to
the bottom and click on "Browse through 3,243,589 images". This will
take you to another page with waypoints.

Use your browser's find function to locate the link that leads to Roll
648. There are approx 970 images on this roll; however, since you know
the ship name and date, you can use the thumbnails & internal indexes to
find the desired section faster.

Regards,
David Oseas

Researching:
HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York
KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles
OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles
SCHECHTER/SCHACHTER: Odessa, Ukraine > New York; SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania

New York > Los Angeles; STECKER: New York > Florida

WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles
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