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Symbol on Letter
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Ralph N Baer
2019-09-23 13:56:11 UTC
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I have posted a letter in German written using the Hebrew alphabet on viewmate.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM75219
I am only interested in learning if there is a significance to the symbol to
the left of the signature of my great-great-grandmother Babette (looks like Babed)
Klein .

I have no need of a translation of the letter because I also have a transcription
in the German script of about 1900 by her youngest child, my great-grandfather
Nathan Baer, which I have no trouble reading.

As stated in the first sentence, Babette had just learned from her family that she
had been promised in marriage to the recipient, my great-great-grandfather Lazarus
Baer. Nathan states with his transcription that his parents had not yet met. The
letter is not dated, but Nathan dates it as 1821. They did not marry until 1832.

Thanks to anyone who can help.
Ralph N. Baer
Washington, DC
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Ralph N Baer
2019-09-25 18:16:58 UTC
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Thanks to everyone who responded to my Viewmate submission
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/responselist.asp?key=75219 . I am, of
course, interested in any additional interpretations. The consensus of the
responses, both on the website and by private e-mail, is that the symbol is
my great-great-grandmother Babette BAER nee KLEIN's monogram, although there
was not agreement as to whether it was in German or Hebrew.

Babette was born either on 23 October 1805 (data received from the
Joehlingen Jewish community by my granduncle Max BAER in the 1930s) or 24
October 1806 (the recently published Joehlingen Ortsfamilienbuch). In any
case, she was in her mid-teens in 1821 when the letter was supposedly
written. As one of the responders stated, the handwriting does not appear to
be by someone that young. I had earlier come to the same conclusion.

Two possibilities crossed my mind. For one, perhaps someone had written it
for her. More likely, the 1821 date is incorrect, and it was later. As I
wrote, the letter is undated, and the year 1821 is from the translation or
transcription into German script by my great-grandfather Nathan Carl BAER.
He wrote the 1821 in two parts. 18 was written at the same time as the
transcription and 21 later. I suspect that he did not know and asked a
sibling, most likely his oldest sibling who survived childhood Therese FRANK
nee BAER. Both lived in Frankfurt, and she was about ten years older than
he.

One more thing which I regard as funny. Babette BAER nee KLEIN was known as
Buhle when young. She had two sisters, Breinle and Berle (Bina). All three
used the German name Babette.

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