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Brick Wall: Ben Greenberg, seeking ship manifest, second attempt
According to Ben's naturalization documents, he arrived 15 Mar 1902 on the
St. Louis, from Southampton to NY. However, according to Ancestry the St.
Louis did not sail into NY then. There is a record for the next year - 15
Mar 1903. On that manifest I did find an entry for a Berl [?]stein (line
22, page 75), a locksmith. However, Ben was never known to work as a
locksmith. The relative he was going to join is unknown to me. Ben lived
in Pyatigory, Russia (now Ukraine), and his given name there was Berko or
Berl. More info below.
Thank you,
Fern Greenberg Blood
Waterbury, VT
GREENBERG, GRIBELYUK, SHPINDELYUK, POSTILNICK in Pyatigory; ROSETSKY in
Zhashkov, GRIBELYUK in Zhivotov All in Ukraine
1910 Federal Census: 245 Queen St., Philadelphia, PA, Ben 28, birth year
1882 (?), birth place Russia, immigrated 1902, tailor, married 5 years;
Sarah 25, immigrated 1899; Jeanette 3 born Ohio; Becky 2 born Missouri.
1918 WWI Draft Registration Card, 12 Sept: residence 1108 S. Oakley Blvd.,
Chicago; birth date 10 Nov 1879; age 38; occupation tailor; nearest relative
Simon Roseski 4410 S. Ashland Ave., Chicago.
1923 Decl of Int 11 Sept, Occupation: Tailor; Age: 44 yro; DOB: 10 Nov 1879;
Residence: 1240 S. Spaulding Ave., Chicago, IL; Arrived port of NY 15 Mar
1902.
1920 Federal Census: same residence; Ben 40 immigrated 190?; Sarah 35
immigrated 1899; Jeanette 13; Rosalie 12; Edward 2, mother-in-law Bessie
Ludmer 63 immigrated ?.
1930 Federal Census: 1649 N. Fairfield Ave., Chicago, IL, Ben 51 proprietor
of grocery store; Sarah 46; Rose 22; Edward 13; Lael 9; Jean Rosenstein 24;
William Rosenstein 28; Seymour Rosenstein 2; Bessie Ludmer 72.
1939 Declaration of Intention 8 Jul 1939: Residence: 3524 West Grenshaw St.,
Chicago, IL; Occupation: Fruit Peddler; Age: 59; Born: Zhashkov, Russia;
Immigrated: March 1902, Southampton, England to NY on ss Saint Paul; name
Beryl Greenberg.
1940 Federal Census: residence 6250 S. Albany Ave., Chicago, IL, same as
1935, occupation tailor, age 61, Sarah 54 tailor, Edward 21 salesman, Lael
19 typist.
1942 Naturalization Record 19 Feb: date and port of arrival 15 Mar 1902, New
York, NY; certificate #5512276, page #253020; witnesses: Nettie Hodes 1816
So. Trumbell, Chicago; Harry Hillman 1923 Clarence Ave., Chicago.
1942 WWII Draft Registration Card, 27 Apr: residence 823 S. Lawndale Ave.,
Chicago, IL, age 62, place of birth Zaskov, Russia, owner - Exclusive
Tailoring Store, same address as residence.
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Brick Wall: Ben Greenberg, seeking ship manifest, second attempt
According to Ben's naturalization documents, he arrived 15 Mar 1902 on the
St. Louis, from Southampton to NY. However, according to Ancestry the St.
Louis did not sail into NY then. There is a record for the next year - 15
Mar 1903. On that manifest I did find an entry for a Berl [?]stein (line
22, page 75), a locksmith. However, Ben was never known to work as a
locksmith. The relative he was going to join is unknown to me. Ben lived
in Pyatigory, Russia (now Ukraine), and his given name there was Berko or
Berl. More info below.
Thank you,
Fern Greenberg Blood
Waterbury, VT
GREENBERG, GRIBELYUK, SHPINDELYUK, POSTILNICK in Pyatigory; ROSETSKY in
Zhashkov, GRIBELYUK in Zhivotov All in Ukraine
1910 Federal Census: 245 Queen St., Philadelphia, PA, Ben 28, birth year
1882 (?), birth place Russia, immigrated 1902, tailor, married 5 years;
Sarah 25, immigrated 1899; Jeanette 3 born Ohio; Becky 2 born Missouri.
1918 WWI Draft Registration Card, 12 Sept: residence 1108 S. Oakley Blvd.,
Chicago; birth date 10 Nov 1879; age 38; occupation tailor; nearest relative
Simon Roseski 4410 S. Ashland Ave., Chicago.
1923 Decl of Int 11 Sept, Occupation: Tailor; Age: 44 yro; DOB: 10 Nov 1879;
Residence: 1240 S. Spaulding Ave., Chicago, IL; Arrived port of NY 15 Mar
1902.
1920 Federal Census: same residence; Ben 40 immigrated 190?; Sarah 35
immigrated 1899; Jeanette 13; Rosalie 12; Edward 2, mother-in-law Bessie
Ludmer 63 immigrated ?.
1930 Federal Census: 1649 N. Fairfield Ave., Chicago, IL, Ben 51 proprietor
of grocery store; Sarah 46; Rose 22; Edward 13; Lael 9; Jean Rosenstein 24;
William Rosenstein 28; Seymour Rosenstein 2; Bessie Ludmer 72.
1939 Declaration of Intention 8 Jul 1939: Residence: 3524 West Grenshaw St.,
Chicago, IL; Occupation: Fruit Peddler; Age: 59; Born: Zhashkov, Russia;
Immigrated: March 1902, Southampton, England to NY on ss Saint Paul; name
Beryl Greenberg.
1940 Federal Census: residence 6250 S. Albany Ave., Chicago, IL, same as
1935, occupation tailor, age 61, Sarah 54 tailor, Edward 21 salesman, Lael
19 typist.
1942 Naturalization Record 19 Feb: date and port of arrival 15 Mar 1902, New
York, NY; certificate #5512276, page #253020; witnesses: Nettie Hodes 1816
So. Trumbell, Chicago; Harry Hillman 1923 Clarence Ave., Chicago.
1942 WWII Draft Registration Card, 27 Apr: residence 823 S. Lawndale Ave.,
Chicago, IL, age 62, place of birth Zaskov, Russia, owner - Exclusive
Tailoring Store, same address as residence.
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Get ready to Rock & Roll in Cleveland. Registration for the 39th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy (July 28 - August 2, 2019)
is open. See www.iajgs2019.org for details.
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Watch JewishGen's video -- click here:
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on the JewishGen homepage.
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Jewishgen receiving a commission.
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