Skeleton in my cupboard?

[Ingrid Rockberger]

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Dear Fellow Genners,

I recently obtained the marriage record of my paternal grandmother's parents.
After all the usual information, the record adds: "They also stated that before
entering into marriage they had conceived during their cohabitation a son,
Judka, born in the local town on September 1/13 1868. They recognize him as
their own by this marriage record, and on the basis of article 291 of the Civil
Code of the Kingdom of Poland, they secure for him the status and rights of a
legitimate child." I worked out that this child was conceived when my great
grandparents were about 16 years old! I am asking all our experts if this was
unusual - or not? The marriage took place in December 1869 in Kaluszyn.

Happy Purim to all,

Ingrid Rockberger
Co- Chair, Sharon Branch
Israel Genealogy Research Association.

Researching:
ROCHVERGER:Lowicz and Lodz,Poland
KONIARSKI:Zloczew, Poland
LAJZEROWICZ:Lutotow, Poland
MONKA: Sokolow Podlaski, Poland
SCZNAJDER, Kozow Lacki, Poland
PONSOWY/PONSOWA: Kaluszyn, Poland
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Hello Ingrid

I've volunteered with JRI/Poland for years. While your great grandparents' ages
are a little young, but not impossible (and possibly not exactly correct), what
the record you see is the record of their civil marriage. They had Judka almost
certainly after they'd had a Jewish marriage. The law allowed "legitimization"
of the child when the couples had the state recognized wedding. My GGP had
their civil wedding in Galitzia after their first 9 or 10 children were born,
following a Jewish marriage. They were Hasids and certainly weren't having kids
without being married...

Best,

Madeleine

Madeleine Sann

Philadelphia PA and
West Bath ME

Post by Ingrid Rockberger
I recently obtained the marriage record of my paternal grandmother's parents.
After all the usual information, the record adds: "They also stated that before
entering into marriage they had conceived during their cohabitation a son,
Judka, born in the local town on September 1/13 1868. They recognize him as
their own by this marriage record, and on the basis of article 291 of the Civil
Code of the Kingdom of Poland, they secure for him the status and rights of a
legitimate child." I worked out that this child was conceived when my great
grandparents were about 16 years old! I am asking all our experts if this was
unusual - or not? The marriage took place in December 1869 in Kaluszyn.

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