Name Malka

[David E Goldman]

X-No-archive: yes
Hi Jewishgenners. Among Ashkenazim there is a common female first name of
Malka. It often goes with a nickname among Russian Jews of Manya.
Is it possible that the tradition of that name might go back to a
Sephardi/Spanish or Italian name of Reina/Regina, thereby suggesting the
possibility of actual Sephardi/Spanish/Italian ancestry in the
not-too-distant past? I keep thinking about this issue ever since reading
the story about the Sephardi/Italian ancestry of the Charlap family name.
Perhaps it is as simple as a baby girl being born around Purim and therefore
has an association with Queen Esther. I suppose the male equivalent is just
Melech. But this doesn't have the equivalent in Sephardi/Spanish/Italian
history of "Rey/Re" for king as does Malka with Reina/Regina.

David Goldman
NYC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Get ready to Rock & Roll in Cleveland. Registration for the 39th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy (July 28 - August 2, 2019)
is open. See www.iajgs2019.org for details.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Watch JewishGen's video -- click here:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Planning to use Ancestry.com? Start by using the "Ancestry Search Box"
on the JewishGen homepage.
By doing this, any eventual subscription to Ancestry.com will result in
Jewishgen receiving a commission.
It's an easy way to help JewishGen!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Support JewishGen with a contribution to the JewishGen General Fund!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sign up for the JGFFAlert!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgff-faq.html#q3.7
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Join our mailing list at http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager if you
would like the convenience of receiving all soc.genealogy.jewish posts in
your mailbox, instead of having to search for them in the newsgroup, whose
content may not be consistently carried in its entirety by all providers.

[David Lewin]

X-No-archive: yes
The word Malka means Queen. It is very commonly used to describe the
day of rest in our calendar.

Why would not both Ashkenazim and Sephardim use it as a name for a
girl? Neither grouping can claim prior ownership of the word.

David Lewin
London

Post by David E Goldman
Hi Jewishgenners. Among Ashkenazim there is a common female first name of
Malka. It often goes with a nickname among Russian Jews of Manya.
Is it possible that the tradition of that name might go back to a
Sephardi/Spanish or Italian name of Reina/Regina, thereby suggesting the
possibility of actual Sephardi/Spanish/Italian ancestry in the
not-too-distant past? I keep thinking about this issue ever since reading
the story about the Sephardi/Italian ancestry of the Charlap family name.
Perhaps it is as simple as a baby girl being born around Purim and therefore
has an association with Queen Esther. I suppose the male equivalent is just
Melech. But this doesn't have the equivalent in Sephardi/Spanish/Italian
history of "Rey/Re" for king as does Malka with Reina/Regina.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Get ready to Rock & Roll in Cleveland. Registration for the 39th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy (July 28 - August 2, 2019)
is open. See www.iajgs2019.org for details.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Watch JewishGen's video -- click here:
http://youtu.be/nASSn4rDXh4
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Planning to use Ancestry.com? Start by using the "Ancestry Search Box"
on the JewishGen homepage.
By doing this, any eventual subscription to Ancestry.com will result in
Jewishgen receiving a commission.
It's an easy way to help JewishGen!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Support JewishGen with a contribution to the JewishGen General Fund!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sign up for the JGFFAlert!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgff-faq.html#q3.7
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Join our mailing list at http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager if you
would like the convenience of receiving all soc.genealogy.jewish posts in
your mailbox, instead of having to search for them in the newsgroup, whose
content may not be consistently carried in its entirety by all providers.

[Madeleine Isenberg]

X-No-archive: yes
Dear David,

My expertise was originally focused on Ashkenazi names (primarily but
not restricted to the Spis Region of Slovakia) in particular findings
on tombstones. About four years ago, I discovered that Sephardic
tombstones had amazingly lots of differences, and in 2015, I presented
my findings in IAJGS in Jerusalem.

One cemetery that I devoted a huge amount of time to was that of the
Sephardic Brotherhood Cemetery in Seattle, Washington. I actually
looked at all the tombstones (on-line) and compiled a spreadsheet of
information for my own research that amounted to 1311 records. True,
these are of 20th century burials and a few in 21st.

So, regarding your question of Malka as a given name, vis-a-vis
Reginas or Reina, I can tell you that not once was Malka used there:
I found Reina (3 instances) in English was Reina in Hebrew; Regina (17
instances) was either Regina, Reina, or both.

As for Malkas in my set of birth records (almost 5900) for Slovakia,
out of identified Hebrew birth names, 38 were named Malka and two
thirds of these had secular names of Amalia or a slight variation,
e.g., Mali or Mili. No Manyas in my records.

Others might have different responses for you.

Best,

Madeleine Isenberg
***@gmail.com
Beverly Hills, CA

Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various
parts of Galicia, Poland, such as: Nowy Targ, Wachsmund, Dembno,
Lopuszna, Ochotnica, possibly Krakow, who migrated into Kezmarok or
nearby Straszky/Nagy-Eor/Nehre, both now in Slovakia.
GOLDSTEIN in Abaujszina (Sena), Szkaros, Szikso, and Kosice, Slovakia;
KOHN and GOLDSTEIN in Tolcsva, Hungary
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Get ready to Rock & Roll in Cleveland. Registration for the 39th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy (July 28 - August 2, 2019)
is open. See www.iajgs2019.org for details.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Watch JewishGen's video -- click here:
http://youtu.be/nASSn4rDXh4
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Planning to use Ancestry.com? Start by using the "Ancestry Search Box"
on the JewishGen homepage.
By doing this, any eventual subscription to Ancestry.com will result in
Jewishgen receiving a commission.
It's an easy way to help JewishGen!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Support JewishGen with a contribution to the JewishGen General Fund!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sign up for the JGFFAlert!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgff-faq.html#q3.7
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Join our mailing list at http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager if you
would like the convenience of receiving all soc.genealogy.jewish posts in
your mailbox, instead of having to search for them in the newsgroup, whose
content may not be consistently carried in its entirety by all providers.

[Herbert I Lazerow]

X-No-archive: yes
David Goldman asked about the relationship between the names Malka
and Regina.

I had always supposed that those few Jewish girls bearing the name
Regina actually carried the Hebrew name Malka, and Regina was simply a
translation. Not so sure anymore, having run into several Vivians
whose Hebrew names were not Khaya. Translation may not have been a
common way of deriving the English name. Perhaps they just picked an
English name that they liked, or one that had class because of its
Latin roots.

Alexander Beider's A Dictionary of Ashkenazic Given Names provides
no reference from Malka to Regina. It also does not show Manya as a
variant on Malka. It does show the name Mane as a relatively
little-used name of unknown origin, possibly a female variant of Man.

Malka is a little tricky also because there are two very similar
names with biblical sources: Mikhle, daughter of Saul and wife of
David, and Milke, daughter of Abraham's brother Haran and later wife
of Abraham's brother Nahor.

Bert

Herbert Lazerow
San Diego CA U.S.A.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Get ready to Rock & Roll in Cleveland. Registration for the 39th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy (July 28 - August 2, 2019)
is open. See www.iajgs2019.org for details.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Watch JewishGen's video -- click here:
http://youtu.be/nASSn4rDXh4
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Planning to use Ancestry.com? Start by using the "Ancestry Search Box"
on the JewishGen homepage.
By doing this, any eventual subscription to Ancestry.com will result in
Jewishgen receiving a commission.
It's an easy way to help JewishGen!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Support JewishGen with a contribution to the JewishGen General Fund!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sign up for the JGFFAlert!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgff-faq.html#q3.7
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Join our mailing list at http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager if you
would like the convenience of receiving all soc.genealogy.jewish posts in
your mailbox, instead of having to search for them in the newsgroup, whose
content may not be consistently carried in its entirety by all providers.

[Yitzhak Aizic Oked Sechter]

X-No-archive: yes
Shalom JewishGenners,

Concerning the given name Malca. Read with great interest the
discussion on this name. But for some reason, no one mentioned the
fact, that among Ashkenazi Jews, there are many, many girls/women
that carry a double barrel name and one of them being Malca. I am
talking about Esther Malca, many of the Esthers in my family
research database also carries the name of Malca.

All the best,
Aizic Sechter
Israel
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Get ready to Rock & Roll in Cleveland. Registration for the 39th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy (July 28 - August 2, 2019)
is open. See www.iajgs2019.org for details.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Watch JewishGen's video -- click here:
http://youtu.be/nASSn4rDXh4
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Planning to use Ancestry.com? Start by using the "Ancestry Search Box"
on the JewishGen homepage.
By doing this, any eventual subscription to Ancestry.com will result in
Jewishgen receiving a commission.
It's an easy way to help JewishGen!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Support JewishGen with a contribution to the JewishGen General Fund!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sign up for the JGFFAlert!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgff-faq.html#q3.7
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Join our mailing list at http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager if you
would like the convenience of receiving all soc.genealogy.jewish posts in
your mailbox, instead of having to search for them in the newsgroup, whose
content may not be consistently carried in its entirety by all providers.