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Recording or videoing in a cemetery--Do you know if prior approval by next of kin is required
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Jan Meisels Allen
2018-12-24 04:58:01 UTC
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I am asking if anyone, anywhere in the world, other than
Western Australia, is aware of a policy that before photographing
or videoing a cemetery headstone (metzevah) prior approval by
next of kin is required.
If you know of such a practice please let me know.

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Recently a posting on an Australian Yahoo group for Australian Jewish
Genealogy posted that the Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries
Board put up signs prohibiting photography of graves without consent
of next of kin. This applies to cemeteries in the Perth metro area.
This covers both Jewish cemetery areas in general cemeteries and
non-Jewish municipal cemeteries in Western Australia.
While the stones themselves are in the public domain, prohibiting
photography is a quandary for genealogists.
The Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries Board charges for
taking photographs, but I don't know if that is what is behind
their prohibition of obtaining next of kin permission.
What happens if there is no living next of kin?

According to the Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries website
( http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/ ) they are responsible for 6 cemeteries,
several of which have Jewish sections. The Perth Chevra Kadisha
has confirmed the placement of signs with the practice listed.

This is the rule from their bylaws as amended in 1996:
Recording on film or videotape Substituted 19/1/96 80

(1) A person shall not, without the prior approval of the Board,
record on film or videotape any image or sound within a Cemetery.
(2) A person shall not record on film or videotape a funeral,
headstone or memorial within a Cemetery without the prior
approval
of the next of kin of the deceased person whose funeral, headstone
or memorial is being recorded."

Thank you
Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

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Herbert I Lazerow
2018-12-25 03:51:30 UTC
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Post by Jan Meisels Allen
I am asking if anyone, anywhere in the world, other than
Western Australia, is aware of a policy that before photographing
or videoing a cemetery headstone (metzevah) prior approval by
next of kin is required.>
I do not.
Post by Jan Meisels Allen
While the stones themselves are in the public domain, prohibiting
photography is a quandary for genealogists.>
It is not clear why the stones should be in the public domain. See below.
Post by Jan Meisels Allen
The Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries Board charges for
taking photographs...>
Recording on film or videotape Substituted 19/1/96 80
(1) A person shall not, without the prior approval of the Board,
record on film or videotape any image or sound within a Cemetery.
(2) A person shall not record on film or videotape a funeral,
headstone or memorial within a Cemetery without the prior
approval of the next of kin of the deceased person whose funeral, headstone
or memorial is being recorded.">
It appears from the text of the rule that one must receive two
approvals to make a copy of a stone-- one from the next of kin, and a
second from the Board. It may be that the Board's interpretation of
this rule is that it approves if the next of kin approves. If the next
of kin does not approve or cannot be found, approval must come from
the board.
The copyright law protects original expressions from copying.
Copyright law differs from country to country. This description only
applies to U.S. copyright law.
The amount of originality required for copyright is not great, but
there must be some originality. Only the original aspects of the work
are protected by copyright. The recitation of facts is not
sufficiently original for copyright, so the inscription of the
deceased's name, date of birth, date of death, and the usual symbols
would not qualify for copyright. A photograph of decedent would, as
well as an unusual relief. Whether the copyright belongs to the
photographer, the stonecutter, or the next of kin will depend on the
relationship between them; it would not belong to the cemetery, so the
cemetery could not authorize copying it.
A second argument for restricting photos is a property argument.
Normally, the owner of property can decide who can come on that
property and what they can do when there. Technically, this argument
in favor of the cemetery would only work if this cemetery only granted
a right of burial, and not if it conveyed an ownership interest in the
grave.
Another thing to consider is that the Western Australia
Metropolitan Cemeteries Board sounds like a government agency. If so,
it would be bound by the rules establishing it, and it might be
subject to public pressure.
As a matter of policy, I see some justification for limiting
filming in cemeteries in order to preserve the dignity of the place
and the quiet of those who visit graves. It seems reasonable for a
cemetery to limit the times and manner in which film can be made to
protect those values. It is hard to see much reason to restrict
cellphone pictures, which are not usually accompanied by crowds,
lighting, or other distracting equipment.
Bert
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Herbert Lazerow
Professor of Law, University of San Diego

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