Retain documents, not just web links to the documents

[Mel Comisarow]

X-No-archive: yes
Several years ago I located a web link to a document in Portuguese of genealogical
interest to me. I used Google Translate to convert the document into English and I
stored a digital copy of the English-version document along with the web link to
the original Portuguese document. I did not store the original Portuguese document.
The resulting English was poor but did give me some insight about the original
document's contents. A few years later, after I learned that Google Translate had
improved, I again downloaded the document and used Google translate to convert to
English, giving an imperfect but much more readable document. I have recently had
excellent results using Google Translate to translate Russian into English and so
I wished to revisit my Portuguese document of ten years ago. The web link no longer
works. So here is my advice: When using a translation program to convert a foreign
language document into your language, retain the original foreign language document
as well as its web link. Actually, its probably smart to always retain original
documents as well as the web links to the document. Remember, computer memory is
very cheap these days.

Mel Comisarow
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[Yaakov Dovid Saxon]

X-No-archive: yes
Have you tried the Internet Archive? They've been around since the late 90s taking
and storing snapshots of webpages. They don't have everything, for various
technical reasons, but they are definitely always worth a try.

The easiest way to find a page in their archives is to just prefix to your web
address web.archive.org/web/

So for instance to get an archived copy of www.example.com, you could enter
web.archive.org/web/www.example.com. You can also insert a desired date into the
url to get the closest available snapshot,
eg. web.archive.org/web/2004/www.example.com

Yaakov Saxon
...I have recently had excellent results using Google Translate to translate
Russian into English and so I wished to revisit my Portuguese document of ten years
ago. The web link no longer works...
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[Hilary Henkin]

X-No-archive: yes
While your advice to always save the original document is very sound,
the document might still be on the website, but on a different page or
with a different name, so the link (the path to the document) isn't
accurate now. You might try truncating the URL a piece at a time (some
shortened versions won't work because of directory limitations), and see
where that takes you.

If the site offers a site search,that might also be helpful

At one time there was a website dedicated to the Jewish Cemetery in Harbin, China,
with lists of all those buried there. I printed out every page, and one day, the
site was gone. But I still have my printed pages....

Don't give up quite yet....

Hilary Henkin

Researching:
Mogilev - BERLIN; BELIISKI; HENKIN - GENKIN; MESCENIKOV; POZ - POZE
Ekaterinoslav - KATZ; LAPIDUS; LAVROTIN - LAVRUTIN - AVRUTIN;
PESACHINSKY; SHIMERNITSKY - SEMERNITSKY; STEINHART
Roumania: DONNENFIELD; DOLLINGER; RINCOVER - HARINCOVER; WISENTHAL -VIESENTAUL
Harbin, China: FELDMAN; PENZNER; SREBERK - SCHRIEBER; Lublin,Poland: KATZ; JARMUSZ

Post by Yaakov Dovid Saxon
...I have recently had excellent results using Google Translate to translate
Russian into English and so I wished to revisit my Portuguese document of ten
years ago. The web link no longer works.

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